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  1. #1

    Question I need serious help with my dog problem

    Hi everyone, I'm new here, joined you nothing but to share my problem with you, seeking for your guide and advice, hopefully they'll help me solving my problem with my beloved Luna.
    I have a female dog, mixture of German Shepherd and Husky, according to the way she looks, she have the Husky body and shape, and the GS colors and face, and I must say, I'm in love with her and the way she acts and looks that almost everyone stops me outside while walking her, asking me about her breed because she attracts everyone who knows a little about dogs.
    Anyway, I adopted her when she was 3 months old, and because of my leg problem that I had, I couldn't take care of her, so I gave her to a dear friend of mine, who have a mature Rottweiler couple, male and female aged of 4yrs, and she was so happy with them and always happy to see me, especially when my friend did his best not to play with Luna, so she doesn't get attached to him, and I was visiting her daily, bringing her own food (rice, chicken wings or legs, potatoes and carrots) all mixed together, and playing with her before giving her food to let her eat later, and I never noticed that my friend gives the food I bring her to his two mature Rottweilers too, so she wasn't eating much and she had some growing problems, at the age of 5months, I brought her to home, and of course in our religion we can't let the dog get into the house, no reasons to explain why, the answer can be found in any Islamic resource or forum, so I made her a beautiful house, and she had the entire roof for herself.
    After couple of months, I released that she's a very stubborn dog, she understand the order of sit, come but she only execute when she wants, and beside that, we're living in an apartment so I have to let her locked in the roof of a 150m surface, so she doesn't go downstairs and cause me problems with people living in different floors since the roof is for my family, and each time she was going downstairs without my permission I was bringing her back to the roof without any aggression till one day, I heard screaming below in the stairs, and than I released that Luna is surely downstairs, the old women who lives in the 3rd floor had a bag of groceries and Luna went to play with her without having any bad intentions, but the lady got scared, that was enough for me to loose my mind and to be too aggressive with Luna, and the repeated the same thing about twice later and each time I was more aggressive with her than the last time, till one day I promised myself not to be aggressive toward her and to have more control over myself.
    Lately, since she turned 9 months old, I wanted to train her, so I found an ex-military trainer with a good price, I called him and we started training her, the first day she learned how to walk with the leash without pulling or pushing or anything, but it took us almost 10 days in order for her to execute the exercise correctly, because we met a problem while training her, she can't support the noises outside and beside that she fears the cars and engine sounds and people conversations passing by, and now she's a little better but still, suffer from the noises surrounding her.
    Before yesterday, we were working on "lay down" exercise, she does it perfectly on the grass, and she denies the same order outside of the grass, and of course since the ex-military trainer is very professional and patient, he goes easy with her, and each time he tries to help her to "lay down" outside of the grass, she looks at him and me with very innocent looks with her tail between her legs, and that breaks my heart knowing that I caused her this.
    And yesterday, we tried something different, to went straight to the "sit, don't move" exercise, when he tries the exercise with her, most of the time, she executes and stay in her sitting position not moving, but me, once I start with her, and start walking step by step away from her, repeating to her the order of not moving, she start walking toward me with her tail between her legs and sit with her back and side glue to my legs, and opening me her lovely hands and legs to play with her stomach, and that hurts me, I don't know why she does this, if she loves me that much or fears me that much, please, I need serious help, I have tears in my eyes while writing you this and I'm so lost, I caused this to my dog and I want to correct her so she can be a happy dog again!
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  2. #2

    Re: I need serious help with my dog problem

    You have to realize this is a 9 month old puppy, she's hyper and in teenage mode so she doesn't want to listen. You also been aggressive with her so she's afraid of "being bad" but doesn't know what that means. When her tail is between her legs and she shows her belly she's submitting to you out of fear. My suggestion would be to let her be a puppy for awhile, take her for long walks out on the streets she fears but don't give her guidelines just let her explore for herself and figure out that nothing is going to hurt her. You can't keep a dog of these breeds locked up in the attic by herself no matter what religion you are, she needs interaction with people and to be able to play not just work all the time. Again my suggestion is spend more time with her just in play not in commands and give her the care she needs for awhile and then once the fear is gone you can go back to training her

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    Re: I need serious help with my dog problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Aleshia View Post
    You have to realize this is a 9 month old puppy, she's hyper and in teenage mode so she doesn't want to listen. You also been aggressive with her so she's afraid of "being bad" but doesn't know what that means. When her tail is between her legs and she shows her belly she's submitting to you out of fear. My suggestion would be to let her be a puppy for awhile, take her for long walks out on the streets she fears but don't give her guidelines just let her explore for herself and figure out that nothing is going to hurt her. You can't keep a dog of these breeds locked up in the attic by herself no matter what religion you are, she needs interaction with people and to be able to play not just work all the time. Again my suggestion is spend more time with her just in play not in commands and give her the care she needs for awhile and then once the fear is gone you can go back to training her
    Thank you so much for your reply Aleshia, what I meant when mentioning the religion in the subject, is that dogs are not allowed to get inside of the house in my religion, because if they touch your clothes, carpets, furniture, you can't pray with those clothes, on those carpets or furniture until they're washed, and the same thing is applied on the dishes, and this is applied only on dogs, cats, birds, any other animal is not forbidden to enter the house because they don't and won't disturb the prayers if what I mentioned was touched.
    And I also don't lock her up, she have a surface to 150m that belongs to her, I take her frequently outside during the day time, the early morning for 15min walk no more, I take her out to meet her trainer around 3-5pm so she's active for the two hours, and than I take her out at night depends on my mood but we walk for 1hr minimum.
    When I take her outside when not for training, I keep the leash in my hand and set her free, I put her on the leash only when I have to cross the street or if there's a group of people walking forward so keep her controlled and once we pass those obstacles I set her free again and never order her to walk by me, the only two problems I face while setting her free is that if she sees a running cat she will run after, what I'm afraid of is that she gets hurt by the homeless cats, because whenever Luna sees a cat she plays with her tail and she believes that cats are not a threat for her while cats can damage her eyes and lips and I avoid that, and beside the cats, if someone calls her that she don't know him, she goes with her ears turned back and lowering her back and tail, she plays for no more than 5sec and than she returns running to me, I will be so happy to see her one day ignoring anyone calling her, beside that she's so social and she's not a threat for people or kids, the quite contrary.
    Thank you again for your reply and I will give her more time, and she have my unconditional love, but as I noticed yesterday after "sit, don't move" exercise, I came back and sit outside with her at the door and when I was hugging her she was kind of afraid, I could feel her face being locked with her spin and her tongue licking her lips that I had to play with her belly and cheeks repeating to her that she's a beautiful girl.

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    Re: I need serious help with my dog problem

    I agree with what Aleshia has written. I have the following observations to make:

    1. You have admitted, "....that was enough for me to loose my mind and to be too aggressive with Luna, and the repeated the same thing about twice later and each time I was more aggressive with her than the last time, till one day....". You have already been aggressive with this dog several times, and claim that you won't do so any more. But can you be sure? Aggression against a playful puppy is a bad thing, and if you have the capacity to get angry (NOT a desirable quality for a pet owner) then it could happen again, despite your best intentions. You need help with your anger issues before getting a pet.

    2. That is quite unacceptable on animal welfare grounds. It doesn't matter what religion you are (or not). It is cruel to keep a dog locked in a roof area. Dogs, like other domestic animals, need affection, company, interaction with humans and other animals and above all....LOVE. You can't claim to love an animal if the poor thing is locked in a roof area. In the winter it could get very cold, and in the summer very hot. Even if you built a dog house, that will not adequately protect the dog from excesses of temperature.

    3. The dog is doubtless putting its tail between its legs because it is scared of your anger. Things have already gone too far.

    4. Keeping a dog in a roof area alone is not only cruel, it could also be against the law. You do not state where you live, but most countries have animal welfare legislation which would prohibit the keeping of a pet in such conditions. You may not have been reported yet to the authorities by your neighbours, but one day you could be.

    5. What you are doing is probably against Muslim rules. I know little about such rules, but a quick search of Google revealed this: https://islamqa.info/en/69840 Note the last statement: "It is not permissible to keep dogs except for hunting or guarding livestock and crops".

    6. "I have to let her locked in the roof of a 150m surface"...."I also don't lock her up". Whichever is the case, it is not the actual locking of the door which matters. It would seem that she cannot leave the roof area without your going up and opening the door.

    7. On animal welfare grounds, I urge you to give this poor dog to a non-Muslim who will keep this dog in normal circumstances and give it some LOVE and lots of attention. Or find a no-kill shelter and give the dog to them.
    Last edited by LPC; 01-29-2016 at 12:32 PM.

  5. #5

    Re: I need serious help with my dog problem

    I'm sorry but you're not in a position to say so, you talked way too much about my personal life, such getting help with my anger before adopting a dog, and I can't count after you how many times you used the word "anger".
    When comes to religion, you're the last one to give me lessons, I mentioned religion for a reason, dog is not allowed to get into the house and I explained that in my previous reply to Aleshia, beside that, even the hunting and guarding are not allowed to get into the house.
    If you don't have enough power to control yourself, that could be understood, but accusing me of someone who breaks his own promises, that can't be understood, maybe you should visit a specialist for that.
    A non-Muslim person doesn't qualify him to take care of Luna better than me, here you're going way too far, I've made a mistake toward a dog, and I admitted that, and I came here asking for guide, not for meaningless talk, the only thing I made against the Muslim rules is being aggressive toward a dog, but owning her, is for guard.
    Thank you for your time.

    Quote Originally Posted by LPC View Post
    I agree with what Aleshia has written. I have the following observations to make:

    1. You have admitted, "....that was enough for me to loose my mind and to be too aggressive with Luna, and the repeated the same thing about twice later and each time I was more aggressive with her than the last time, till one day....". You have already been aggressive with this dog several times, and claim that you won't do so any more. But can you be sure? Aggression against a playful puppy is a bad thing, and if you have the capacity to get angry (NOT a desirable quality for a pet owner) then it could happen again, despite your best intentions. You need help with your anger issues before getting a pet.

    2. That is quite unacceptable on animal welfare grounds. It doesn't matter what religion you are (or not). It is cruel to keep a dog locked in a roof area. Dogs, like other domestic animals, need affection, company, interaction with humans and other animals and above all....LOVE. You can't claim to love an animal if the poor thing is locked in a roof area. In the winter it could get very cold, and in the summer very hot. Even if you built a dog house, that will not adequately protect the dog from excesses of temperature.

    3. The dog is doubtless putting its tail between its legs because it is scared of your anger. Things have already gone too far.

    4. Keeping a dog in a roof area alone is not only cruel, it could also be against the law. You do not state where you live, but most countries have animal welfare legislation which would prohibit the keeping of a pet in such conditions. You may not have been reported yet to the authorities by your neighbours, but one day you could be.

    5. What you are doing is probably against Muslim rules. I know little about such rules, but a quick search of Google revealed this: https://islamqa.info/en/69840 Note the last statement: "It is not permissible to keep dogs except for hunting or guarding livestock and crops".

    6. On animal welfare grounds, I urge you to give this poor dog to a non-Muslim who will keep this dog in normal circumstances and give it some LOVE and lots of attention. Or find a no-kill shelter and give the dog to them.

  6. #6

    Re: I need serious help with my dog problem

    I have allowed you to reply to me, but as this is now getting too contentious I am locking this thread. This forum always remains courteous and friendly. I wish you well with your dog.
    Last edited by LPC; 01-29-2016 at 01:08 PM.

 

 

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