View Full Version : Maybe animals will be intelligent like humans in the future.

05-25-2015, 12:27 PM
I just wanted to know what others think about intelligence in animals. We know from the history of human origins that human race is a species in the family of apes. It means that in the future we may find some animals as intelligent as humans.

Which one, you think is the most intelligent animal today?

Previously i used to think that monkeys have good IQ, but after watching a video about parrots on youtube, i changed my mind.

I would like to share two videos to you people which may amaze you. I think parrots are more likely to be intelligent like humans in the future.

Monkey (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRix_vuAmrM)

Parrot (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7ht0a2-OnA)

05-25-2015, 01:45 PM
Firstly, welcome to the forum! You have started a fascinating thread.

A lot hinges on what ones calls "intelligence". Humans claim that they are the most intelligent creatures on this planet, but this is very questionable, given their foolish use of this world at times. Whales have large brains and their own elaborate language, but as they live in the sea and used to be killed on a large scale by humans, more research is needed.

Monkeys and parrots are often cited as very intelligent, and the videos you mention are very informative and interesting. Regarding parrots, probably the most intelligent ever was the famous Alex. See http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2008/03/animal-minds/virginia-morell-text

A few decades ago some people denied that animals had intelligence at all! We have moved on since then, but there is still a long way to go. A lot of animals display intelligence; see for example http://news.discovery.com/animals/10-surprising-facts-about-animal-intelligence-140402.htm

Apart from the issue of "raw" intelligence, the question of animal self-awareness is important, too. In 2012, a group of prominent scientists met in Cambridge and produced the famous Cambridge Declaration on Consciousness. See http://fcmconference.org/img/CambridgeDeclarationOnConsciousness.pdf Note the sentences near the end: "...the weight of evidence indicates that humans are not unique in possessing the neurological substrates that generate consciousness. Non-human animals, including all mammals and birds, and many other creatures, including octopuses, also possess these neurological substrates."

05-26-2015, 07:00 AM
Thanks for the warm welcome LPC.

The links you have shared are worth checking esp. the one on Cambridge Declaration.

Since it is known that modern humans have evolved from ape like creatures and gained this much level of intelligence during several thousand years, there is a probability that other species on earth may become intelligent too.

05-28-2015, 09:49 AM
I think we'll find in the near future that most animals are way more intelligent than we think. Just because they don't build cars and fly planes doesn't mean they are not clever. Intelligence should be based on what you need to do in life, not how much you can do.

I watched the film Lucy at the weekend and it said that humans use just 10% of their brain capacity and yet dolphins use 20%. I can't verify if that is true but it's quite fascinating what the other % is there for!

05-28-2015, 11:49 AM
Lurcher, great to see back on the forum! I haven't much to add to my previous post, but I strongly approve of two sentences in your post above: "Just because they don't build cars and fly planes doesn't mean they are not clever. Intelligence should be based on what you need to do in life, not how much you can do." That is very perceptive and so true!

Regarding humans only using 10% of their brains, some neuroscientists dispute this, but as a trained hypnotist I know that the subconscious occupies a lot more space than the conscious (for functions such as heart beat, automatic breathing, automatic eye blinking, subconscious memory and analysis, etc.). This applies equally to animals as to humans - as humans are, after all, just another species of animal!

05-29-2015, 02:44 AM
Ah that's interesting. I wonder what % is used for the subconscious. Maybe worth a Google, if it is at all possible to determine at all.

05-29-2015, 03:02 AM
This article may interest you: http://www.lifetrainings.com/Your-unconscious-mind-is-running-you-life.html

05-29-2015, 07:37 AM
Ah yes I have watched some of Bruce Lipton's lecture videos on youtube in the past, he's a fascinating guy with a lot to offer.

07-12-2015, 04:22 AM
Some animals are intelligent but not as intelligent as humans.