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naveedh
05-25-2006, 09:53 AM
Hi,

Im fairly to these boards and need a little advice. I have a 9/10 week old japenese akita puppy. I realy need to train it to stay in a kennel. I have an out door kennel outside, and its nice an warm. Would it be cruel to keep it in such a kennel. Its decent size so it can get up and move around. Although when i put it in, it starts whining.

JustAnotherDogLover
05-25-2006, 09:58 AM
My first thoughts are how warm is "nice and warm" outside? Akita's have long, thick coats so if it's too hot she'll be miserable!!

At such a young age too, expect some seperation anxiety. She's so confused, not sure what's going on. Think about it, for the last 9/10 weeks its been with an entire litter, lots of others to play with and look to for fun and now all of a sudden she's all by herself, alone, BORED!

I'd suggest getting a bunch of toys for her--anything and everything you can find (but try to see if you can get something indestructable so she doesn't chew it into pieces when you're gone and end up choking on a piece). A lot of people here recommend a Kong ball. I've never had one but they speak highly of them so you might want to look into one.

And try to go out and spend some time with her while she's in her kennel (if it's big enough). Play a game, pet her, love on her. Whatever. Just reassure her that she's not in it for punishment or to be abandoned and never spoke to again. Also, try to work the length of time in it gradually. Don't just throw her out there for 24 hours and expect it to be good. Maybe an hour a day, move up a couple hours in time and so on and so forth.

Are you planning on leaving it outside 24/7 or only during the day while you're away from home?

naveedh
05-25-2006, 10:14 AM
i plan to leave it outside permanately once its not small enough to get stolen. At the moment, i only put it in the kennel during the day and i leave her in the garage at night. I'm finding it hard also to leash train it, is it wise starting at such a young age? Another question which i need answering is that she loves playing with the little kids around, should i let it? The reason this behaviour makes me worried is that despite me being around it doesnt seem to obey me when the kids are around although when they are away she listens to me?

smiffy
05-25-2006, 11:13 AM
it? does 'it' have a name?

JustAnotherDogLover
05-25-2006, 11:53 AM
If your intentions for this dog is just to leave it outside all the time, why did you get it in the first place? Do you not realize what a horrible life it is for a dog to be thrown into solitude with little to no socialization? This might be part of why she's not listening to you. Why should she? When those kids are around they are offering her what you won't--attention.

I'd suggest leash training now, at a young age. But I personally think it'd be stupid to waste your time training a dog that's just going to be a yard decoration and not a member of the family.

naveedh
05-25-2006, 04:14 PM
whow, i think you caught the wrong end of the stick. Firstly she does have a name, and thats 'Demi'. Secondly, i dont plan to leave Demi outside forever... wen did i say that, i perhaps didnt clarify my problem. I was merely discussing the sleeping arrangements and whether it was alright whilst i was out leaving Demi in the kennel. Demi, will be socialising and going for regular walks and will not be locked for hours in a kennel. Don't jump to big conclusions without knowing the full facts.

JustAnotherDogLover
05-25-2006, 06:37 PM
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to come across the way it sounded. I was trying to help you understand the listening thing. This is just a puppy--she wants ALL the attention she can get right now. So if she listens to you when it's just you two, it's because you are giving her one on one attention. When the kids come around, she is getting TONS of attention from someone much smaller who really doesn't care about her learning to be quiet in her kennel or isn't going to put her on a leash or punish her for not doing this or not doing that. Again, it's the attention. It's someone new, new smells, new sounds, new sights, new everything. It's exciting and it's fun and it's interesting and she thinks, "I don't care what you say right now, I want me some of this "kiddy" action!!!!" Does that make more sense??

I'm still not sure I understand the kennel then garage then kennel than garage thing. Why can't she come in the house? I personally find that dogs that become one of the family are better behaved then prisoners in the yard 24/7. Not to mention, if you leave her outside right now til she's older, you're going to have to start a lot of training over again. Not to mention all the newly found fears she'll find.....the fridge turning on (loud, unfamiliar noise), the toilet flushing, she won't know what she can and can't chew on, what she can and can't lay on, what room she should be in and which she shouldn't be in. Once you bring her in the house, it's a WHOLE new world to her and she's gonna be all over the place out of curiousity and excitement and, once again, not really caring about what you say.

Find a refridgerator or range box or buy a small crate/cab and bring her in the house at night to sleep inside. Let her spend an hour running around to learn the place. I know puppies can be a handful (trust me, right now I have 9).

smiffy
05-26-2006, 02:00 AM
hi and welcome to you and demi :)

i dont use out door kennels but do use crates for my dogs and this works well for both me and them. they have their own den/space and i know my furniture is safe from alternative play arrangements :)

i personally would never leave my dogs outside while i was out but thats down to the increase in dog thefts and just safety in general.

do start lead training today, there is a very good thread on this - i will go and find it then post back.

smiffy
05-26-2006, 02:01 AM
its on luvmahmals thread called walking/leash problems.